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Old 09-08-2003, 08:35 AM
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You're right, R and R.
I knew I was leaning away from the style of Genesis/Marillion (both bands probably cringe at the slash I'm putting between their names).
I guess I must be remembering the early days of AM when every other song was Yes/Genesis (yikes, another slash!) and our wise and benevolent program directors gently nudged us toward a wider base of new, and old, prog.

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Old 09-08-2003, 08:50 AM
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Full circle

Isn't it interesting that Marillion got blasted (and rightly so at the time) for "Grendel" and its 9/8 ripoff, and now they're the yardstick? At least they had the balls to do it, and there's no patent on that time signature.

To open up a can of worms - Except for a few really decent tunes (most of Season's End, Dry Land), what happened to the rest of the band after Fish left? I saw them on the Season's End tour (my only time I saw them) , and they were good, but for crying out loud, put some ass back in your music, will you?

Thanks for the "nit-pick" joke - I not feeling well today and that should pick me up for a while!
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Old 09-08-2003, 09:50 AM
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Re: Full circle

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To open up a can of worms - Except for a few really decent tunes (most of Season's End, Dry Land), what happened to the rest of the band after Fish left? I saw them on the Season's End tour (my only time I saw them) , and they were good, but for crying out loud, put some ass back in your music, will you?
Rick,

Sorry you're not feeling well and hope you feel better soon.

Found this link to a Marillion family tree which I thought interesting. I didn't know that we could link them to Camel and GTR.

Anyway, see what you think and get well soon.

http://marillion.com/band/tree.html

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Old 09-08-2003, 11:09 AM
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I found the date I saw Marillion - the Internet is a cool thing. I pulled out my ticket - only $5.

Keith - thanks, for the kind words mate.
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Old 09-08-2003, 12:18 PM
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re: IQ

Rick - per your IQ inquiry.

I recently got Seventh House and it is pretty good. The 2 signature pieces are "Seventh House" and "Wrong Side Of Weird". Take a listen from the requests and then decide if those are enough for an album purchase. The other songs on the CD are OK - IMHO.

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Old 09-08-2003, 01:50 PM
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Rick,

Try and hear "Nine in a pond is here", "Nomzamo" and "Are you sitting comfortably".

They feature a different vocalist from "Attic" and "Wake" but don't let that put you off. They all have some good moments on them.

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Old 09-08-2003, 02:09 PM
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Thanks, gentlemen

Progskunk - thanks!

Keith - see the Dream Theater post (today) - I wasn't into the first vocalist for a long time!
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Old 09-08-2003, 03:40 PM
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Re: Like Marilion

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I find "The Watch" sounds a lot like Fish-era Marillion. They only have one CD ("Ghost" I think) and is often played on AM. You should give them a listen.
In my ears the Watch is more of a Gabriel-era-Genesis clone than Marillion ever was. I heard the them live three weeks ago.
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Old 09-09-2003, 12:14 AM
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If you want to listen a band that sounds very much like Genesis and you don't care about lyrics in Spanish, try the album Avenida Larco by the peruvian band Frágil.

They started in the mid 70's as a cover band, and played mostly Genesis and Yes songs, in 1980 they released this album which is their masterpiece, eventhough the Gemnesis influence is obvious you can find some Tull and Yes sounds also, but with their personal touch.

If you don't like songs in foreign language at least try the song OBERTURA, a great instrumental with powerful guitar and keyboards, I'm sure that after listening it you'll give the album a chance.

Sadly history repeats itself, and like Genesis, Frágil became more and more commercial after this release, this lasts years they are trying to sound prog' again and in 2002 they released Sorpresa en el Tiempo a new version of Avenida Larco but with better sound plus a 27 piece Philarmonic Orchestra and three bonus songs.

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Old 09-09-2003, 02:34 AM
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Thanks for the pointer.

I found "Sorpresa en el Tie" on Amazon.

sounds as if the "Avenida Larco" is more difficult to find but I'll have a go.

Thanks again Ivan.
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Old 09-09-2003, 10:37 PM
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sounds as if the "Avenida Larco" is more difficult to find but I'll have a go.
Sorpresa en el Tiempo is a great album, has most of the songs from Avenida Larco and the Philarmonic gives a special sound to the music, mostly because they only add the Orchestra to the Keyboard parts but don't touch the powerfull sound from the rest of the instruments.

Tracks 1 to 9 are from Avenida Larco.

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Old 09-22-2003, 11:08 AM
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Wow!!!!

"Sorpresa en el Tiempo" has just arrived at chez Waye and I LOVE it!!!!

Excellent recommendation Ivan. I've also just found "Avenida Larco" on e-bay and put a bid in for it. Now for the big wait to see if I'm succesful.
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Old 09-22-2003, 10:19 PM
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I've also just found "Avenida Larco" on e-bay and put a bid in for it.
I will check in little stores here in Lima if there is some copy availlable and I'll tell you.

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